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Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2023

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The sentence "When Banquo asks of his own fortunes, the witches respond paradoxically, saying that he will be less than Macbeth, yet happier, and less successful, yet more" kinda sucks. The play said Banquo would be "less happy, yet much happier", and "lesser than Macbeth, yet much greater". This sentence should be changed so that it's clearer on what it's conveying. BananaCat2 (talk) 01:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 03:45, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I agree with BananaCat2. I thought the best response was to remove the sentence entirely, just leaving the plot point intact. I've edited accordingly. AndyJones (talk) 12:24, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The method of Lady Macbeth's suicide is undisclosed

Generally, plot summaries should avoid saying that some off-stage detail is "unclear" or "undisclosed," because it mixes analysis with narration, and no work is perfectly detailed. Also, the opening sentence might say "tragic play" rather than "tragedy." 67.180.143.89 (talk) 17:46, 14 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would have agreed with you, except that the plot summary does not say what you say it says. The relevant sentence in the synopsis says: "Before Macbeth's opponents arrive, he receives news that Lady Macbeth has killed herself, causing him to sink into a deep and pessimistic despair...". So I cannot tell what your point is. Can you explain more clearly what you want to change? AndyJones (talk) 12:34, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've found it. It's two paragraphs later. I'll remove it. AndyJones (talk) 12:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done. However I don't agree with the suggestion to change "tragedy" to "tragic play". We've always defined the plays according to the categories in the First Folio. AndyJones (talk) 12:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indian movie adaptation

The Indian super hit movie Maqbool by film director Vishal Bharadwaj is an adaptation of Macbeth. The director made a few changes: The three witches were replaced by 2 corrupt police constables, Lady Macbeth was removed and instead the wife of the Mafia Don Abbaji (King Duncan) is seen plays the conniving woman and has an adulterous affair with Irrfan Khan who essays the titular role, and their affair is the reason why Maqbool kills Abbaji. Nabrina73 (talk) 19:13, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2024

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Capitalize the "contrary" in the sentence "contrary to popular myth, Shakespeare's tragedy Macbeth is not the unluckiest play as superstition likes to portray it." LangstonMitchell (talk) 04:22, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Done AndyJones (talk) 13:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Semi-protected edit request on 17 November 2024

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I suggest changing the phrase "committed suicide" to "died by suicide" in the discussion of Lady Macbeth. This is due to the changing language around suicide to avoid portraying it as a crime (e.g., https://www.irmi.com/articles/expert-commentary/language-matters-why-we-dont-say-committed-suicide). It is less important for a fictional character, but I think it's still good to use better phrasing. 2601:1C0:4C01:5F70:C0D0:1871:8460:7CC1 (talk) 20:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is an overemphasis on one very specific definition of the word "commit".The word commit implies neither immorality nor criminal behaviour. If a politician commits himself to a particular government policy, should we impeach him? Is it a crime or immoral when a romantic couple make a commitment to each other? Or you commit your grandmother to a care home? Besides, changing the terminology does not change the nature of the act. Suicide is a tragedy, no matter what you call it.Mediatech492 (talk) 03:11, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: My issue was more with the "meaning that..." wording that suggested there's no room for interpretation (yes, it's widely believed she killed herself, but it's not a definite fact that should be told in wikivoice). In amending that wording, I switched to "death by suicide", which, issues with using "commit" aside, I believe flows better in the context. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 16:56, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]