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[edit]The article says that Michael Jackson was Tim Burton's first choice, then goes on to say that Johnny Depp was always Tim Burton's first choice... — Preceding unsigned comment added by RickO5 (talk • contribs) 15:13, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Good article nominee
[edit]Please review this article, and if you seek improvements, contact me so it can be promoted to GA status. Go to Wikipedia:Good article nominations#Film and cinema. Wildroot (talk) 17:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
GA review
[edit]First of when mentioning who is in the film in the lead keep it simple such as - The film features Johnny Depp as the eponymous Edward, and also stars Winona Ryder, Dianne Weist, and Anthony Michael.It also has a - remove alsoEdward Scissorhands was a hit for Burton commercially and critically - International BO results please : )and has become a beloved film amongst both children and adults - This could be considered POV as it is an opinion. There are adults and children who love every film - and those who hate films"Edward Scissorhands." Name should not be in quotesWe are introduced to local - Do not use "We"Possible in the plot section tell us who plays who rather than have it in the lead such as "saleswoman Peg Boggs (Diane West) as"..
I really don't see the harm in that. Wildroot (talk) 15:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Eventually, Jim attempts to implicate - remove eventuallyNo need to link ChristmasWe then cut back - as above with the "We"After casting every other character, Burton still had Edward - "Burton still had Edward" is confusing, i know what you mean but it should be reworded"lack of virility." - quotes go inside the fullstop when it's only a word or two - full sentence quotes have the quotes outsideJohnny Depp has since become Burton's muse, appearing in seven of his other films - Just Depp - "Muse"? remove "other"[citation needed] tagDuring pre-production on Beetlejuice felt her to be perfect - word missingremove link to dollarsnewest, hottest and youngest director - POV and opinionspent 12 weeks - Sixty different houses - keep consistent numbers or wordsSixty different houses had to be repainted for - they didn't "have to be" painted, Burton chose to paint them - Sixty different houses were repainted forDo you think the expansion tag should still be there?to compose the score - link score"toss it out." - quote inside - as with "even harder than Batman."Should Main Titles/The Suburban Theme/scores be in italics quotes or be normal?remove link to AmericaGrammy Award Nomination - lowercase nBAFTA win for Best Production Design, BAFTA award for best..Italics for Entertainment Weekly in referencesAuthors last name comes first for references so Roger Ebert -> Ebert, Roger
Actually it's more professional using their last names first as does every other encyclopedic literature does the same. Wildroot (talk) 15:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
wasn't, wouldn't, couldn't, can't, wasn't, wouldn't, wasn't, wasn't should be spelt out - was not, would not, was not etc
That be all - feel free to comment if you disagree. M3tal H3ad (talk) 05:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
"Kim, refusing to believe this, hastens to enter the mansion. She reunites with Edward, and Jim follows to mansion. There, she reunites with Edward. Jim follows them and attempts to kill his rival." I don't think there's actually four sentences of information in here... but I'm not clear on the editing process, and hesitant to just jump in and clean it up. 169.229.121.229 (talk) 00:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)DF
Not to mention that it says "reunites with Edward" twice - she reunited with him twice? 163.192.21.43 (talk) 06:31, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed the duplication, but as you said there are too many sentences and they aren't well linked. (210.49.178.166 (talk) 07:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC))
I made some changes....
[edit]I noticed that the 'plot' section of this article was extremely messy. The sequence was completely out of order and it jumped around a lot. I know the film quite well and this retelling of the plot was misleading and confusing. I changed the order of a few of the sentences so that it now makes sense, but unfortunately these have now been put back to the way they were previously. I would much appreciate it if this was rectified as I believe it i now too messy and confusing, and not at all an accurate portrayal of the film. (Little cupcake 13 (talk) 15:40, 21 April 2008 (UTC))
- WP:MOSFILMS specifies we don't have to describe the film's plot in the same order. I think the plot section is fine considering the first two paragraphs each focus on how Edward is treated by the family and the wider community before describing the story's events. Alientraveller (talk) 15:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I understand that the retelling of the plot does not need to be in the same order as the film, however it is very confusing to read, especially if someone has never seen the film. By retelling in a more correct order would make the article more readable and more understandable. I understand the idea of retelling the plot by seperating it into focussing on how Edward is treated by other characters and then telling the events of the film. However by writing it this way it seems to repeat a lot of points and seems nonsensical. The way this article is written seems as though it is written by someone who has never seen the film, instead simply writing a rehash of a review they saw in a newspaper. If you want to emphasise they way Edward is treated by other characters and then focus on the actual events of the film, you should create another section for this. Maybe titled Relationships between characters, or something. (Little cupcake 13 (talk) 16:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC))
- >Edward is arrested and released when a psychological examination reveals that his isolation allowed him to live without a sense of reality and common sense. >>Why 'allowed'? 'Made' or 'forced'. It's а reason, not a consequence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.153.171.143 (talk) 21:42, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
clean up
[edit]Maybe it is just because I woke up from a short nap on my day off from camp, but it seems that the grammar throughout this article is unusual if not incorrect or somewhat incoherent. I myself might edit it at some point if I have the time, but if anyone else wants to take a shot at it, feel free. Valley2city 23:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
In the third paragraph of the lead section, we are told that the film injected over $6 million into the Tampa Bay local economy. Then in the second paragraph of the section "Filming", we are told the film injected over $4 million into the Tampa Bay local economy. Granted, over $6 million is 'over $4 million'; still, it would be nice if the figures jibed. Sandinog (talk) 15:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Matthew Bourne version
[edit]Someone should write up a section on the Matthew Bourne ballet version, it's amazing! TR Wolf (talk) 04:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Apart from a link to Matthew Bourne's official website, there's no mention at all of the stage show. I haven't seen it and know very little about it, but I feel its existence warrants a paragraph, if not its own page. Does someone who's familiar with the stage show want to have a go? Dom Kaos (talk) 21:56, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Comedy?
[edit]I'd say it's more drama/fantasy. Dunno, it's more subtly ironic than comedic, and most of the absurd or funny moments are actually rather sad seeing how scared or confused Edward gets. Also, it's a quite tragic film, not only in the ending but through the whole plot. I don't agree on the “comedy” part of the definition. 80.35.16.144 (talk) 17:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I concur, comedy is too strong of a word to describe this movie and it should not be labeled as such. Orbzon (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC).
- It's a comedy-drama. The whole premise is kinda absurd and funny if you think about it. A man with scissors for hands falls in love with a suburban girl. Then again, I guess that can be taken a little dramatic. Wildroot (talk) 13:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
- It#s the question of how you categorise the character of Edward. The comparisons are zombie or monsterlike, but there is
the possibility to recognize him as a real trajic clown. So it's a poetic tale a fairy tale either, and related to the clown tradition somehow comical.--Danaide (talk) 14:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Contradiction in article
[edit]The lead refers to Burton talking about growing up in Burbank. In the body where it talks about the film's development, it says it was in the Santa Clarita Valley. I don't which is correct, but Burbank is in the San Fernando Valley, not the Santa Clarita Valley, so the two sentences contradict one another. 64.124.27.3 (talk) 00:27, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Jim or Kim?
[edit]Is it Jim or Kim who asks Edward to break into Jim's house? There's been a bit of back-and-forth about this. DonIago (talk) 15:49, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
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'Dark fantasy'?
[edit]Not mentioned in Allmovie, Box office mojo, or the majority of RT reviews, so doesn't seem to have due weight for WP:FILMLEAD. A google search of 'Edward scissorhands dark fantasy' also suggests a difficulty in finding reliable sources for it. I recommend removing 'dark', or replacing it with 'gothic (fiction)' since that seems to be mentioned frequently. Barely made one (talk) 01:48, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
2006 vandalism and Ed Wood
[edit]The page was vandalized in 2006, a lot of content was removed, and it was never fixed. I am interested in one of the lines removed: "Tim Burton stated that he named the lead character Edward because of its similarity to the name Ed Wood." Any references to this? - Jay Talk 12:13, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Depp's costuming discomfort?
[edit]The article states: "Depp's wardrobe and prosthetic makeup took one hour and 45 minutes to apply." I'm surprised that it did not take more time. I am wondering, though, how much discomfort was involved with the costume and prosthetics. Whether the outfit was leather or vinyl, it must have been hot with the tight cinching, especially under the lights required; likewise, his skin under the heavy make-up. The scissor-hands prosthetics must have required practice and exercise in order to build up Depp's hand muscles so they wouldn't tire and cramp during filming. Was there any mention in the trade journals about these topics? Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 19:27, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- There has been many rumors about Depp fainting and vomiting mutliple times on set, though I cannot verify these rumors since I do not have the source. 2603:6010:5300:BC87:5005:70FE:680B:A8CB (talk) 22:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Kimba?
[edit]JeanMercier90 (talk · contribs) is claiming that Kim is short for Kimba and has repeatedly made this change. I find this highly dubious. Do any other editors support this change? If so, I would appreciate it if supporting sources could be provided. Perhaps a link to the script? DonIago (talk) 13:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Actors should be credited as they are credited in the film, unless there are valid source based reasons for an alternative approach. This disruptive behavior has spread to other articles, such as at Superman Returns. If it continues the matter will be referred to ANI. Betty Logan (talk) 14:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- That was my assumption, but I wanted to keep this as aboveboard as possible, hence starting the Talk page discussion. Thanks Betty! DonIago (talk) 14:58, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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